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Episode 003  ·  Now Playing

"Who's Driving This Thing?"

17 min  ·  April 2026

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This Episode

The person who built the foundation of modern AI is worried. 81,000 regular people are mostly grateful. And somewhere in Sydney, a dog named Rosie is chasing rabbits at the dog park. None of those things cancel each other out. That's the actual state of AI right now.

Story 1

Hinton's Warning

Geoffrey Hinton — Nobel Prize winner, godfather of AI — says he's more worried now than when he left Google. Three specific claims: jobs, incentives, and a 10–20% extinction estimate he calls "a wild guess."

Story 2

What 81,000 People Actually Think

Anthropic interviewed 80,508 people across 159 countries in 70 languages. 81% say AI is delivering. 67% net positive. And teachers are observing cognitive atrophy in students — not predicting it, seeing it.

The Other Side

Rosie

Paul Conyngham used ChatGPT and AlphaFold to help design a personalized mRNA cancer vaccine for his dying dog. Twelve weeks later, she was chasing rabbits. That's what this can be.

The Question to Carry

Hinton says we're in a race between capability and control. The worry and the gratitude and the rabbit-chasing are all part of the same picture.

The question isn't whether AI is good or bad — that's a genuinely stale question. The question is: who is driving this thing? Who has their hands on the wheel? And do they have the right incentives to slow down long enough to get the governance right?

Sources

The Cast

Kyle

Host. Opinionated. Expect a history drop.

Kate

The correspondent. Tight, sourced, no spin.

Morgan

The heartbeat. "Well, why though?"

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